Freeview versus TiVo is just a smoke-screen

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Big in the UK, there are moves to bring Freeview to Australia .

Commentary So, we're to understand that TiVo is doomed and now Harvey Norman has refused to stock Seven's AU$500 set top box and the company has been "forced" to rethink its plans. While the article quotes Seven, nowhere does the representative say the company is "rethinking" and there is a liberal sprinkling of "understood to haves" in the text.

Let's do a show of hands.

Hands up people who've heard of TiVo. (I'm betting most regular readers of this site.)

Hands up if anyone not from the UK has heard of Freeview. (The sound of crickets. Someone coughs.)

Sure, with a bit of marketing the Freeview name could gain some traction, but why bother when a free EPG already exists in Australia and has for several months.

For those who don't know, Freeview is the UK's name for its EPG service. It is being pushed by all the local stations as a potential alternative to the TiVo subscription service that Seven will be launching this year. But surely there's already some competition in this field?

Topfield, the maker of set-top boxes, has had set-top boxes for years with TiVo-like facilities — thanks to the ICETV program guide. Same too Microsoft's Media Center. But are either household names? We don't believe so.

Which next-gen recorder are you interested in?

Freeview
3 votes

TiVo
5 votes

Foxtel iQ2
2 votes

I'm happy with my current recorder
0 vote

I don't know what the fuss is about
1 vote

Total votes: 11

As the Freeview "coalition of the willing" is apparently only meeting for the first time today, it's hard to say what sort of functionality its hardware will have. But it appears that the exercise will be in branding existing set top boxes in a similar way to the HD Ready campaign.

We're not apologists for TiVo, but we don't think it's an amazing idea, given that the marketplace is going to be crowded with plenty of different options come the middle of the year — Foxtel iQ2, TiVo, IceTV, etc. We don't think "branding" the already available EPG will make much of a difference to whether TiVo launches or not.

Seven will probably go ahead with TiVo just because it has brand awareness, and it will probably do okay. But it won't stop what is coming…

The commercial channels are scared of what Foxtel is capable of, and whether it's Freeview or TiVo, they want to ensure their advertising revenue does not erode. TV as we know it will be unrecognisable in ten years as online content begins to take over, and our little cottage industry is gearing up to defend itself. Inevitably, it's a war they will lose, and it probably won't be TiVo who wins it — it'll be to whoever can create a web-enabled set top box that's as intuitive as TV. And at the moment Foxtel will tell you it's them — but we think people will want a Joost-type service that's free.

Foxtel has shown that subscription TV is increasingly popular and Topfield/IceTV have made a living selling the exact same thing that TiVo is promising — fee-based program guides and "record anywhere" Internet functionality. We think that Freeview and TiVo can co-exist and that people will pay for convenience. We believe that this fabricated 'war' is really a smokescreen for a little fisticuffs: free-to-air versus Foxtel. But things won't really get interesting until the showdown: local television versus the world.

For the latest information on this service, have a look at our guide entitled "What Is Freeview?"

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Gerry posted a comment   

Whats the point? Multiple Channels but 4 channels and 3 have same program. 75% sport on Channel 10. 50% plus repeats on most commercial channels. Thank god for SBS and Channel 2. ABC. Advertising 4 minutes every 8 or 10 minutes. This is taking people to Record shows and fast forward the adds, great for the Sponsors they will be unhappy when the eventually find they are being ripped off by Commercial TV. Freeview EPG is always wrong, times for start and finish are on purpose wrong so they overlap other channel recording again making it hard for viewers. Such as shift workers who record as they work when their favorite shows are on. TV has lost it big time.

 

DUH !!! posted a comment   

look !! why can't they offer the more channels even ch 10 did at the 1st of 10HD they could offer more tv series like smallville and other tc series.. even if they did.. whats the point they control the tv and they do whatever they put on but what about us .. we need to added something to make them realise there are over 1000 or even more tv series goes way back in the late 40's towards 2010 why can't they put something that young kids have never eve see before in weather they might like it than today .. di u get my drift.. rather have the tv set up box where they can find and chose what they want to watch but not the tv stations to chose to put on .. its getting borning and too many sports on tv .. not good

 

bobpaul posted a comment   

there is probably more coming shortly:

abchd
abc1
abc2
abc3(yet to come)
7hd
7
9hd
9
10
onehd
one
sbshd
sbs1
sbs2
go(i think its run by ch9)
abc jazz radio
abc radio
sbs radio 1
sbs radio 2

 

"Commenter" is not even in the dictionary. posted a comment   

"Commenter" is not even in the dictionary.

 

Blair Rightsfield posted a comment   

Does anyone know about the new freeview channels? Will we have to have a HD TV to get them?

 

Frustrated-Again posted a comment   

Oi! What about those of us who dont want to record a damn thing? Once again the country people have been left out of any consideration with this issue despite what anyone says....Its taken YEARS to get even a reasonable picture out in the near country South Aust and not without amplifiers and expensive special antennas and extremely high towers.
Now, yet again, we are being left out in the cold when all we want is to sit down and watch the news with some kind of decent picture and possibly the odd movie or show to view and what do we get? More runaround. We now have to spend hundreds of more dollars and all we get is more confusion and more intense 'BS' and more run around.
The people who write the articles in here should be ashamed of themselves writing such tripe and expecting people to swallow it. Its freeview as long as we spend $500 for this and $250 for that along with $700 for something else and Oh,, lets not forget about the new antenna shall we? What a lorry load of crock. You selfish mob of yobbos. Try thinking outside your own flamin square for once.

 

Me? Confused? Oh, yes! posted a comment   

New channels?

Which ones?

ABC2 - many repeats of ABC1
Seven - same as main except a few things
Nine - same as main except a few things
ONE - sport

So?
??

 

jaydee posted a comment   

none of this matters until they do something about the strength and quality of the digital signal. I'm in midtown Toowoomba, can't get local WIN at all, 10 comes and goes, 7, 2 and SBS are usually not bad. all are #$%^&& if the wind starts blowing.

 

robbo53 posted a comment   

abc2 and ten sport

 

perth888 posted a comment   

Will someone tell me what extra channels there are? I have the set top box and I'm still looking for them!?! I'll stick to Foxtel and my dvd recorder. Go the Force!


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