TiVo Home Networking

By Alex Kidman on 11 May 2009

It's tough to move past the sticker shock of the cost of TiVo's home networking solution, but it is a simple solution for those wanting more portable TV out of their PVR.

Editor's rating:7.8 User rating:2.3
  • Good: Enables file backup/transfer • Simple file streaming • Conversion utilities bundled
  • Bad: You're charging HOW MUCH for a code? • Transfers are quite slow
  • RRP: AU$199.00

When TiVo launched in Australia late last year, one of the features that was notably absent from the local version was home networking. The ability to stream multimedia content to your TiVo, or, critically, take recordings your TiVo had made and transfer them to your PC or to portable devices was, we were assured, an upcoming feature that would cost in the "tens of dollars". Home Networking has finally arrived for the TiVo, and the price is a little more than the tens of dollars quote would have you believe. It's a set price of AU$199, although at the time of writing TiVo was offering it for a reduced cost of AU$99.

Features

So what does your AU$199 actually buy you? Well, aside from some client-side PC-centric TiVo software — Mac users will need Roxio's Toast Titanium to access their TiVo over a network — the key thing that the Home Networking Package gives you is an unlocked Media Access Key. The package is only sold through TiVo's local portal, and once you've entered in your details and made your payment, the same network connection that delivers the TiVo EPG updates and the recently launched Blockbuster-branded VOD service will deliver your media access key. It's a 10-digit code that you then enter into the TiVo Desktop software, although some other packages do work with the MAK, such as TiVoButler. With the Media Access Key you also get the ability to download TiVo Desktop Plus to a single PC, which allows you to transfer recordings from your TiVo to a PC, as well as convert them to formats suitable for iPods, PSPs, the Nokia N80, Palm Treo 650 and generic profiles for H.264 and MPEG-4 conversion.

Performance

There's really not much to say on the installation front. Local TiVo distributor Hybrid Television Services provided CNET Australia with a complimentary account, and around 24 hours later we could access the Media Access Key functionality within our TiVo. The Desktop Plus software was likewise a simple install, and it splits in between your TiVo's recordings and sharing music photo and video files from connected PC systems on the same network. We had to slightly tweak our firewall on our test system, running Norton 360 v3 in order for the TiVo to be seen.

The TiVo Desktop Plus software is simple enough to navigate, but TiVo, it seems, is incessantly careful not to annoy any lawyers out there. Pretty much every step you take with the transfer software includes a mandatory click-through disclaimer to assert that you won't distribute files any further than your own system and for your own viewing, which gets rather tiresome after a while. One nice touch is that you can opt to transfer titles individually, or tell the transfer software to automatically transfer an entire series as episodes are recorded.

Once you've selected items to transfer, TiVo queues them up, and then you start to wait. And then wait. And then wait some more. For what is pure data, transferring from the TiVo takes utterly ages, even over a decent gigabit Ethernet network; we can only imagine it'd be much slower again over wireless. Typically, we found programs transferred at roughly double time, so a one hour program came through in around 30 minutes. This makes it impractical for setting up if you want some quick video to watch on the train, but acceptable for large, late night transfer queues. It wouldn't take that much effort to set just about everything on a TiVo to transfer overnight and clear the TiVo itself (although this can't be done remotely) to give you a lot of space for recommendations and VOD movies almost permanently.

AU$199 for a 10-digit code is undeniably pricey — logically it's AU$19.99 per digit, after all — and we do wish it was quicker on the transfer queues. Given the space extending alternative is currently limited to only the Western Digital My DVR Expander, however, and that's more costly and nowhere near as portable or backup-friendly, we'd still suggest it's a worthwhile buy for TiVo-owning TV junkies.

Topics: tivo, pvr, home networking

Comments (11)

  • tsnq gave 7/10 on 29/11/2009 13:30

    • Good: it now seems to work properly - TiVo Desktop version 2.8
    • Bad: version 2.7 didn't really work, too expensive at $199 -try to get it on special or bundled

    TiVo Desktop version 2.8 does what it is meant to do ie transfer of TV shows to PC and transfer of video to TiVo also streaming of music and photos from PC to TiVo. Plus-key lets you convert files for mobile devices and do auto transfers from TiVo. With version 2.8 you can also upload to TiVo an unlimited number of movie files in a folder (limited to 10/folder previously).

  • tracker gave 1/10 on 27/10/2009 11:35

    • Good: none
    • Bad: toooo expensive

    if it was free i could put up with how it performs but its 200 bucks disappointing tivo

  • hobo gave a review on 25/10/2009 03:44

    • Good: supposedly lets you connect to pc
    • Bad: unreliable more often than not

    $199 for a code to simply enable what is built into the tivo. But even then the result is disappointly and even abysmal. Has little or no functionality and is totally unreliable. Do not buy.

  • hobo gave a review on 25/10/2009 03:43

    • Good: supposedly lets you connect to pc
    • Bad: unreliable more often than not

    $199 for a code to simply enable what is built into the tivo. But even then the result is disappointly and even abysmal. Has little or no functionality and is totally unreliable. Do not buy.

  • thestudios gave 1/10 on 03/10/2009 01:12

    • Good: Season Pass Funtion
    • Bad: Home Networking Package was total WASTE of money! I want it back!!!

    The networking feature to copy the files from the Tivo over to a computer doesn't work properly.

    The software simply "waits" for the Tivo. There doesn't seem to be any way to fix it.

    If the company (Tivo) don't fix this problem within the next month (and I think this is generous), then I'm going to sell mine on eBay and wipe my hands clean of it.

    At this time (early October 2009)I strongly advise against purchasing a Tivo here in Australia if you plan on transferring your TV recordings to your computer; UNLESS Tivo fix this FAST!!

    You're better off buying a PVR with a built-in DVD burner (with hard drive of course).

    For what it's worth, I like the Tivo IDEA, but the prove is in the pudding, and so far, the pudding doesn't taste very nice, has wasted LOTS of my time because of the issue, and has left a very sour taste in my mouth.

    I hope that Tivo Australia are working VERY hard to resolved this issue, because so-far my usage of the Tivo has been very bad because of the epic fail of the Home Networking Package, which won't let my copy files to the pc.

    The Season Pass feature is excellent, but there's not much point if you can't backup your recordings because of a filed networking 'feature' that doesn't even work properly, and causes more headache & time than it's worth.

  • Graeme gave 1/10 on 23/09/2009 00:34

    • Good: Worked for a while
    • Bad: Unreliable

    TIVO transfer to PC is highly unreliable. You will find it simply stops working one day and nothing you do can revive it. A complete waste of both time and money.

  • fiend gave 3/10 on 07/08/2009 19:54

    • Bad: Badly put together product

    When you get over the price of the box your surely to be disappointed with the script support responses when they dont even read your question...

    When recording your favourite shows be prepared for 20mins of the previous show you didnt want to watch and only 1/2 of the show you did want to record. This product was so poorly put together I would strongly advise a topfield...

    If you dare to connect the box to your internet you will be met with at least 10GB out of your limits with crap you didnt want in the first place.. make sure tivo sugguestions is turned off....

    If you buy this product be prepared to be disappointed and just save some money and disspointment factor buy the topfield

  • Disappointed gave 1/10 on 10/06/2009 02:24

    • Good: Plays well on my PC
    • Bad: Unreliable, not recommended with wireless by TiVo Support

    This was one of the main reasons I bought a TiVo.

    This package worked pretty well when I first bought it. Transfers were slow, but they did actually get to my PC. TiVo updated the software on my TiVo and now the HNP does not work reliably.

    The only way I can make it work is to uninstall it, reinstall it and it will work once. To do another transfer I have to repeat the uninstall, reinstall.

    Support have been working on this for 2 weeks.

    I have sent them screen shots and software logs, to no avail.

    I am running XP Pro on 2.4GHz P4 with 1.5GB of memory.

    I'm really disappointed with the part of the TiVo feature / function set.

    NOT RECOMMENDED.

  • Jim gave a review on 04/06/2009 09:40

    • Good: Can transfer files from Tivo
    • Bad: Very limited applicatons

    - takes long time to transfer files and convert. 30 min to transfer - maybe another hour to convert into something you can rip to a portable device.
    - files are transfered in locked down TIVO format which can only be played on Windows media on the PC you have transferred to with a Tivo key.
    - files can be converted into Mpeg 4 format for copying to portable devices but are at a significant lesser resolution than the orignal (100 mb versus 1GB) and is significant reduction in quality.
    - PC software will not allow you to set up your Tivo as a DVD recorder and TIVO has replied to me in email saying it breaches copyright to do so.
    - Don't expect to be able to transfer files to a networked hard drive once you have downloaded on your hard drive or NAS if it doens't have windows it doesnt work.
    - All in all very limited software - and I would say not fully explained by CNET article or indeed by Tivo hoopla on their website. My advice save your money.

  • Hal gave a review on 27/05/2009 01:54

    • Good: Great to be able get video off your pvr
    • Bad: Expensive, slow, erratic behaviour, tivo support

    needed tivo support to get working. they took weeks to get back to me and the issues are still unresolved (for both home networking and expander drive)

    i love being able to download video to my pc to watch in another room

    i hate tivo australias support

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